<Convert to Beer> 7:30-10:30pm Sydney/Early am Server

[Fuggs]

Thanks for the Application Spriestie

I have sent you a PM (PM from this website) with details for hooking up for a trial run Thursdays 7.30pm Sydney time.

See you online soon

Fuggs

[Spriestie]

Hi just to let you know that I am ok for trial this evening and will be online. I have sent battlenet friend requests to you both aswell.

[kosk]

So what will we do about the new servers being located in Aus ?

[Derived]

Chupac is lonely at the moment, so she is hoping some of you may add her, so she can chat to you

https://www.facebook.com/Fezbic?fref=ts

Your welcome Chu

[Chupac]

It took me 5 attempts to log in because I couldn't remember my passward.

You just can't help yourself can you steven!

Grrrr

[Fuggs]

Hi guys

How awesome is getting Aussie servers. Did I mention I predicted it a few months ago on vent to you all?

Here are a few quick points for now but I will be back with a longer post in the next few days.

* I suggest our team transfer to an Oceanic Alliance PVE server. Transfer will be free for 2 weeks from 29 Oct but I am unsure if the international transfer fee will be re-credited. Which server needs some more research which I am already working on with Chunky. If anyone has any strong preference, speak now or forever hold you mouth. Early research suggests Saurfang is strongest largest alliance PvE server. That enables us to be on a good pop server in case mythic is an option for us in future

* For some moving away from Convert to Raid guild will be an issue. For those people maybe keep your non raiding toons there and bring you raid toon with us. If you want to stay, please don't feel pressured to come but 50ms ping calls me. I will email officers of CTR guild and let them know.

* We need to discuss if we create our own guild, use Chupacs, transfer our old guild from dreadmaul or take our team and join an established larger guild on the server we are looking to join. Open for comment

* our only US based player is Facerolz, I need to chat with her. We still want her but will she want 250ms ping?

* I will post more on this forum once home and not typing on phone.

* I will also try and touch base with each of you to get your opinion before locking anything in stone

Fuggs

Sent from my iPhone

[Derived]

We need to decide a server, because peoples names are going to be taken if we don't !!

[Vaughno]

All in for changing server. Would prefer to have our own guild, but don't care much either way.

[Derived]

All in for changing server. Would prefer to have our own guild, but don't care much either way.

Agree. CTR was a nightmare, prefer own guild

[Fuggs]

Just had a chance to sit down for a bit and compile research on which Oceanic server to move to. I was initially thinking Saurfang but after finding some more info, now I think Aman'thul.

Aims:
* PvE
* Alliance
* High Alliance population
* Good raid progress
** In terms of evaluating merged realms, alliance pop and raid progress could be misleading if you just add a+b if there is a flood of returning wow players and wow decide to un-merge the realms. Hence I have a minor preference to go for a non merged realm.


I am trying to ensure this decision is right in the long term as we have some members who cannot afford for me to pick the wrong home. Would love any support/feedback.

So the choice comes down to (table from wowprogress)

Realm Type Lang Score Population* Horde* Alliance*
Khaz'goroth PvE en (oc) 10450 7042 3197 3845
Caelestrasz PvE en (oc) 11150 4854 1983 2871
Saurfang PvE en (oc) 11116 6790 3247 3543
Aman'Thul PvE en (oc) 9033 6395 1683 4712
Dath'Remar PvE en (oc) 8766 4435 1474 2961
Nagrand PvE en (oc) 8500 5456 2602 2854


* Population - amount of unique players that meet any of the two conditions:
- has a level 90 character that killed something in Tier 16 Normal
- has a level 90 character in a guild that killed something in Tier 16 Normal
Details on score system => http://www.wowprogress.com/post/114_FAQ

Comments on table:
Khaz and Dath are merged realms
Cael and Nagrand are merged realms
I am using T16 server progress (combined horde and alliance) as a indicator of how healthy the alliance raiding pop is on that server. I am unaware of any tool to track faction specific progress on a server scale.
Top three results for "progress score" and "alliance pop" are highlighted green.
If you exclude merged realms, the only server which is green for both is Saurfang.
Of note, Aman'Thul has a large lead on number of unique alliance players.

Other resources:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/15007210610
This is a post by an individual yesterday who says he counted the number of Top 100 Oceanic guilds in each server by faction (I assume top 100 is H Garrosh kills in order of occurrence). So listing alliance PvE only
Caelestrasz/Nagrand = 5
Aman'thul = 4
Khazgoroth-Dath'Remar = 4
Saurfang = 2
So assuming this info is correct......
My take home from this is the progress table above is skewed by horde performance, ie Saurfang horde had 6 top 100 guilds.
Perhaps Aman'thul would be a better option?

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/realmstats.php
Saurfang last 30 days stats
1078 alliance players online vs 11000 horde
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfac ... rverid=833
Shows weekly average for last 12 months of number of players online between 6-10pm, for Saurfang range 550-900.
Aman'thul last 30 days stats
3700 alliance players online vs 544 horde
http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfac ... rverid=686
Shows weekly average for last 12 months of number of players online between 6-10pm, for Aman'thul range 550-950.

Realm Pop info
Aman'thul => https://realmpop.com/us-amanthul.html
Saurfang => https://realmpop.com/us-saurfang.html

http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/statspve.html
http://www.worldofwargraphs.com/statspv ... 0-0-0.html
Lists players 6/14H in T16 (I assume this is old heroic so Mythic)
Aman'thul rank 117 with 390 players meeting criteria
Saurfang rank 262 with 175 players meeting criteria
Again data can be biased as does not separate horde and alliance
So, I am leaning toward Aman'thul, what do you guys think?